Pontiac Promotional Videos versus the World

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NUMBER 5!!! The 1978 Firebird, Espirt, Formula, and Trans Am Commercial. The flames around the cars were cool, especially the formula and the quick view of the BLACK Trans Am. 2nd best selling year to boot! Round table discussion must have been, hey it’s a Firebird, why not light the screaming chicken on fire for the full Pheonix effect. :shock:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J1yDQ5v1CjI
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NUMBER 4!!! The 1998-02 Trans Am commercial. Eating up the competition. Makes the car look fast and mean showing off the ram air hood.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WMCBm7hXgvE
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NUMBER 3!!! The 1988 Pontiac “Ride” commercial. Setting the tone for Pontiac advertising for the next several years after 1988. It was a broad Pontiac car platform for several cars including the TRANS AM. One of those repetitive songs that get’s stuck in your head. Pontiac had a good year in 1988. Some claim it was due to commercial. It probably deserves a higher spot than #3. But since it was for a more broad car platform than just the Firebirds I dropped it down to #3. It might be a contender for best of all the Pontiac car commercials.. Very late eighties feel to the commercial, pretty clear Pontiac was going after a youthful market. The song was written by Vieha and Jay Kennedy. It was sung by Mark Campbell and Alannah Myles. Campbell was the stand in singer for Micheal J Fox in the Back To the Future movie. Myles big hit was in 1991 with the song Black Velvet.

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NUMBER 2!!! The 1977 Firebird Trans Am Commercial. The best advertisement for the 77 Trans Am’s was the movie Smokey and the Bandit. So what would Pontiac advertising do to ride the short tails of the popular movie? How about a black Trans Am and some spirited driving in the mountainous terrain with a nice looking brunette behind the wheel.. Or maybe dress up some guy with dark hair and a big mustache in a black cowboy hat and take the T tops off. The link has two commercials on it, the first one is the Trans Am commercial. The second half of the video is the Firebird F body platform commercial. Of course I have a 1977 Trans Am, and was in no way swayed to make 1977 Trans Am commercial NUMBER 2 ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nhaNRoE2NI0
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NUMBER 1!!! The Best of the Firebird and Trans Am commercials is....The dating commercial with the 1986 Trans Am. Yes, Yes, the car wasn’t great. But, that does not mean the commercial wasn’t. This commercial ran in a 30 second time slot. No words until the very end. My wife and I watched this the other night and had a good laugh. :lol: :lol: It is sooooo 80’s! Back when it aired I think it got the point across. The beautiful girl looking out the window anticipating a Trans Am too roll up to her apartment. At the end the guys quick look at the camera said it all. This car was worth every penny. 8-)

Here it is....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=urssv7azJow


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I thought this might be a good place for the Motorweek 3 way shoot out between the 85 Trans am, 85 Camaro Iroc Z, and the 85 Mustang LX. Each car still has their own following yet. One thing they have in common is they are all lite and with an engine transplant they are speedy drag cars.

Most of us have probably been around one or more of these cars over the years. I have been around all 3 to some degree. My first encounter with the late 80s 5.0 Trans Am was kind of funny. I was a sophomore in high school and my brother and I were on our way home from school. My brother and I took turns driving, it was his turn to drive and I was a passenger. A few miles from home we came up on a red late 80s Trans Am similar to the one in this Motorweek video. We got right behind him, there was 3 people in the car, and you could see them talking to each other. The guy in back seat was looking back at us every once and a while. We were at the foot of a big long hill when all of a sudden we saw the back of the Trans Am drop some and the car started to accelerate. My brother stepped on the gas and we went around them like they were parked. The guy in the back was bouncing in the back seat and I watch his look of disbelief as we drove around them. We went around them so fast we weren’t even sure they were trying, we thought they didn’t try and kind of forgot about it.

The next week in shop class we were talking to another classmate that apparently worked with the Trans Am owner. The guy that had the Trans Am asked our classmate if he new anyone with a white car with a stripe over the roof. Right away he replied, yes saying it was my brother and I. The Trans Am owner replied that he had gotten his doors blown off with his buddies riding with him. :lol:

14.7 is a great time for a 5.0 4 bbl T/A. A good second faster than any of the 305 cars I have been around. ET wise that is very not far off from a 5.7 GTA of the 87-92 T/As. But none of the 5.0s were ever close to the performance of the later 5.7 engines. One of the guys Dads in highs school bought a new nice looking 5.7 liter GTA Trans Am. He let his kid drive in every once and a while. On one of those occasions, a deputy sheriff clocked it at right around 140 mph. In stock form to get a 5.0 Trans Am or Camaro that fast it would need to be dropped out of an airplane. We had a friend that knew the county Sheriff radio dispatcher back then and word got around that the GTA was clocked at that speed. But the GTA went by the deputy sheriff so fast it was reported the car was a red Ferrari. :lol:

RETRO REWIND...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FV0g5AL0u-I
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Some might remember this article by Car and Driver. “In search of the best handling American car in 1979”
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/co ... d-feature/


Surely it’s the Corvette?

Nope. It was the Trans Am. The article doesn’t say anything, but it must have been a WS6 car with a 301?
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The lead car in the best handling American car looks very close to a 79 Trans Am from my high school days. Except the one from HS was a 403 powered, white T/A with dark tinted glass, I always liked that car. I was told it had 3.08 gears, and was a ws6 car. Pontiac picked the car for the test, interesting they chose the little 301. Only concerned about handling.

The following are cars kids drove in highschool that would be seen in the highschool parking lot back in when I attended. My wife is the music teacher there now. Funny how things work out. :shock:

Top of the list is class’s older than me when I started HS. Again, Pontiacs versus the world, Pontiacs were pretty well represented at my school. I keep recalling little tid bits and adding details about these 30+ year old memories.

79 white T/a 403 w 3.08s, I never saw it accelerate. Only heard second hand it ran pretty good.

69 camaro, bright yellow 327, fairly built, with 4.10s. He was the guy that was clocked at 143 in his Dads GTA a couple posts up. He had a 150 hp NOS system on the car, but never used it. Thank goodness, he was hell on wheels the way it was! When I was in college he and another friend (drove the white Judge)showed up at 7 pm one summer night to put an edelbrock top end cam kit on his chevy truck. My brother stuck with them, I worked on it until midnight and went to bed. When I went out to the shop the next morning he was just leaving! :lol:

69 Mercury Cyclone, white, 428
73 Plymouth Satelite sebring 318, I worked it years later, found out it 3.55 gears and headers.
68 Road Runner 383 auto, red, A girl drove that one, it was a nice car.
70 Chevelle SS, red and w black rally stripes, 350 auto
72 Chevelle Malibu, 350-4 Auto, blue

72 Monte Carlo, pretty dark green with a light green top. 350 4bbl, good friend had this car that raced with us still joins us on our car projects. He got his Monte down to the low 12s with a 355. After he bought a 71 Chevelle he sold the Monte, it is out at Kearney Nebraska now.

75 Monte Carlo 350-4 Not that fast but he was hell on wheels!

70 GTO, Baja gold, 400 350 hp, 3.23, electric everything(and HELL X10 on wheels. :lol: He blew up the engine at about 110, broke a head off an intake valve, the rod came around and cut through the brake lines on the front. He didn’t crash, but it wasn’t pretty. I bought the the heads off that cars original engine after it blew, one head was in poor shape. It had a 400 and a 428 after that. It showed up to school once with the entire side of the car mashed. Someone broad sided it. They said it wasn’t his fault, it was the other drivers fault. Ya, I”ll bet he had nothing to do with it :lol: He later sold it to a buddy, who got drunk and hit a bridge and messed up the car pretty bad. I heard they were still going to restore it, been years now though. Not sure what became of the car.

70 GTO, Judge, RA3, 3.23s, white w red interior. Another close friend I do a ton of stuff with. He went to the track with us once, 14.2@99. He still has it.
He also had a black 70 Judge RA3 4 speed with 3.90s. It is owned by Lance Kramer in Lemars Iowa now. Kramer also bought my classmates 69 Judge, he was buying and reselling Pontiacs, he apparently kept the black Judge, and swapped a RA 5 in it. This is not a photo of a car like it, this is the car from high school. I helped wrench on it, last time I saw the car before it was sold the engine and 4 speed was installed and the body was back on the frame. It didn’t have the original transmission like the article says, that must have gotten that confused. Looks like it turned out really nice. Also very first Pontiac engine we worked was in this car, RA3...Basic ring OH with a RA 4 cam...
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1970 GTO, 400 350 hp, 3.23 open, dark green. (If that car could talk, another hard life!) We built a 455 for it when I was in college after it was sold to another friend.

1969 Z28 Camaro, black, 350 4bbl, built some what, it sounded good, he shifted at 7000, but the engine always smoked :lol: 4 speed, 5.13s most of time. Later it was sold and taken to a track with 4.10s, ran a 15 flat. But it was getting tired at that point. Someone in his family had a new LX 5.0, 5 speed mustang, the LX was driven to school some and he claimed there was not that much difference between it and his z28. He claimed the z28 was a high 12 second car though to match his ego. Lol. I ran into it a few years later getting raced at Scribner Nebraska, the new owner painted it orange and had it tubbed and a bbc. Much, much faster than in HS!

My class
1969 GTO Judge 4 speed, 3.55. Carrousel red, No stripes, poor running 400, then a yellow 80 turbo T/A after the GTO, turbo was gone, not very speedy, but no slower than a couple other classmates 81 305-4bbl Camaro and about the same era Monte Carlo, the 301 was not totally stock and the T/A had no problem taking the 305 Camaro. Another kid had a new base 1990 Firebird with a v6, not quick at all.

1979 Camaro Z28, fancy blue paint job, built 350, again low gears. 5.13s. All rpms no business lol, 5.13s with stock wheels and tires :lol: Later sold and someone put 3.73 gears in it, it ran good after that.

65 Mustang coupe 289, nice, red, white top, 2 bbl. Not many classic FMCo vehicles for as popular as they were.

My brother and I, I have all these yet.
69 Charger, bright yellow,383 then a 440, headers, 3.23 and 4.10s, usually in the 14s back then. 14.82@96 with the 383. The 440 would have made it into the 13s when it ran good. This picture was from back then...
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72 Satellite, White, 318 4 bbl w heads, 2.71, 3.23 and 4.10s, mid 15s @90 with the 318 and 3.23s. It consistently ran good for what it was. We turbocharged it in college, then put a 440 in it after blowing out a bunch of head gaskets.

71 Chevelle 307, (slow) it had a mild cam, always had a 2 bbl though, until we swapped to a 455. Picture is from 1986 when it had the 307. It sounded mean, had a nice lope with side exit straight pipes. Bark was worse than it’s bite though, it ran ok once it was rolling. Took a neutral drop to first to get it to smoke the tires. One wheel wonder 275/60-15. The guy with the Baja gold GTO lined up with us once going out of town on the 4 lane. Only 15 at the time, we were not interested in racing him at all! :|
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About the same time that we got our first Pontiac engine, which was a 389 with 3x2s and a Isky roller cam, we also started to drive dads McLaren M6GT-B replica on some weekends jr and Sr year. It made everything seem slow, made by the American Sports Car company, in Omaha, NE, known as ASC McLaren. It has a 455 Olds in it. They built about 30 of them and sent them all over the world. It is a 79. For the best handling car in America in 79 it would have been a contender. This is the same era as school picture. Kind of fussy, but that is me sitting on the fender.
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My brother and I brought the car to town at night, and went for weeks not telling anyone we were the ones driving it. It was right after the movie Batman in 1989. Kids didn’t know what it was and talked about the Bat mobile being in town. :lol:
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Later the news got out and a lot of kids got to ride in it. The guy with the 69 Judge was riding with me when a car load of kids tried to pass us on the right. There is no back visibility in that car, the passenger said they were coming. We were going 30 or so, I floored it when they were about to the back of the car. Side by side, there were 5 kids looking out the widow at us with faces of shock as we left them. Of course five kids spread that like a wild fire. They claimed they were going 85 and we didn’t do anything until they were up to the back bumper. My passenger said, “Did you see their faces?” We both had a good laugh.

The summer after high school some folks moved to town and had a kid my age, he bought a 78 T/A w72 auto with 18000 miles. 3 tube headers and 275/60-15s, brown, that car was a blast.

Younger class
1969 Cutless S, white, nice car, 350, later was a 455 after I graduated. He was the one that tried to pass the M6GT.

1986 IROC-Z 305 auto, he passed us once coming home in our charger on the way home from school, I think his car was about to it’s top speed. He was about 4 cars ahead of us before my brother decided to chase him down, and it took a lot longer than it should have. We could tell right away our engine was missing, we should have stopped right away. But Adrenalin kicked in and instead of getting to do a tune up we got to replace an engine. It made it home but the next time we started it up we found out it lost a rod bearing. The 440 was fun while it lasted. :lol: We had a 400 in the charger for the rest of senior year. The 400 in the charger was just a take out out of a big 4 door car, headers and a big thermoquad carb made it run ok. It was a little slower than our friends 78 w72 Trans Am. It was close enough the make it fun though.
1969 Charger RT, B5 blue with a white vinyl top, 440, 4 speed ( his moms original owner car, sometimes let him drive it. I actually saw it out this summer. Still looks good.
1976 Dart sport, 318, headers w 3.90 gears. He messed up something in the drive terrain. We bought it as a roller from the kid and later gave it to my younger brother, originally the car had factory 360 police engine, extremely rare and not even suppose to exist. The kid we bought the Dart from later drove a mid 80s Camaro with a 5 speed and a fuel injected 350. It ran impressively well.

My younger brother drove our Chevelle with the 455 to school, it ran in the 13s back then. I was is college. He drove our Red 65 Dart GT, 318 4bbl, 3.23s a lot to, it ran a 15.5@88. His car was a 1970 Red Challenger 360 4bbl with headers and 3.23s and a 3 speed. It ran a 14.8@ 92. Later he swapped to a 4 speed and it ran in the low 15s. The red 71 T37 we have was driven by a kid close to his age, as I recall it had a 400, q jet and 2.78s.
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Some more Pontiac versus the world video history. It happened in 1969. Dodge and Plymouth were having a big production run in 1968 with the Dodge Charger with production numbers close to 100,000. You could option out a Dodge Coronet or a Plymouth Satelite and get them into the same Luxury sport market. The Ford Thunderbird fit into the same class. Oldsmobile and the Toronado had a different approach to the market with the front wheel drive. Buick’s Riveria and Chevy’s Caprice were both large cars, Chevy had nothing to fit in this class. Pontiac broke from its GM ranks and introduced the Grand Prix on a new shorter rear wheel drive car platform. The 1969 Grand Prix went from a fledgling but consistent production numbers in the 30k range to 112486! It sent a shock wave through out the GM branches. Advertised as having a 390 Hp 428 as an engine option. The advertising even included a 4 speed transmission as one of the options. The 428 390 hp 4 speed Grand Prix used a 068 ram air 3 cam and if I recall correctly had ram air style manifolds, made it a contender against it’s A and F body competitors. It was the highest hp rating Pontiac used on a mass production car.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CaDiRvy3PQQ
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For 1970, Chevrolet went after the 1969 Grand Prix platforms market share by introducing the Monte Carlo. They came after the Grand Prix pretty hard. Chevy’s campaign must have been somewhat successful. The Grand Prix production dropped to 58325, while the Monte Carlo sold 145975. A little over 3000 had 454s. The Monte Carlo base car was very plain compared to the Pontiac. Base engine for the Chevy was a 250 hp 350 and bench seats, the Pontiacs base engine was a 350hp 400 with bucket seat and a console.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mEUReYnd_Fw
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Motor trend did a 3 way comparison between the Grand Prix 455, Monte Carlo 454, and Thunderbird 429.
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Another cool old Pontiac video. The head and assistant head of Pontiac engineering squaring off a 70 GTO against a 71 455 HO GTO Judge. Appears to be at the GM proving grounds. Video says RA4, but I think the 70 is a 455 car.

And the winner is....
Enjoy 8-)

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